The London St. Mary of Debre Tsion Ethiopian Orthodox Church vs Some Members Latest Conflict: Good or Evil?

July 5, 2011

By Dr G Bekele
London, England

Dirshaye Lema with Abune Paulos

The expelled church member Dirshaye Lema seen here (far right) with Aba Diabilos is trying hard with few of his evil friends, to destroy the London St. Mary of Debre Tsion Church.

The Holy Bible asks us all by saying, “Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will also destroy that person. For God’s temple is Holy, and you are that temple”. The Internet is an interesting combination between a method for publication and a method for simply speaking. There are a few mind-boggling cases here related to the above matter too? Ethioview.com editor/s, if my impression is correct, may have posted some made up nonsense about the London St. Mary of Debre Tsion Ethiopian Orthodox Church not only to defame the church’s reputation out of spite but also to give a bad name to the Ethiopian Community in UK to suit their devious purposes or to appease others. Otherwise, why bother at all to get the Police and the Charity Commission involved in that kind of internal dispute that could have been solved by “Forming A Conflict Resolution or Peacemaker Committee”. More or less, it was not a wise thing for Ethioview to get engaged in a trial by media and defamation campaigns if as they had claimed that this matter was in the process to be dealt by outside bodies. It’s also possible that they have legitimate reasons and problems with the church elders and members but the accuser/s did not seem to have realized that this problem existed before they/he have been summarily expelled.

So, why chose to accuse the wrongdoers if any, after one has been expelled from the church for unaccepted and wrong conducts? And why was that such allegations are always posted only on Ethioview.com not on any other Ethiopian websites too? For the church and the accused members, being hounded by Ethioview.com editor/s in an attempt to conduct trial by media is one of the most dangerous and unpleasant experiences that is short of physical assaults. Secondly, publishing slanderous statements concerning the said Ethiopian Orthodox Church’s chosen elders and elected members for yet an unproven allegation; may have a very legitimate case of defamation of character no matter how much the defamation of characters is notoriously difficult to prove in the Court of Law for those in the public eyes, all because the actual real effects can be quite evident and badly damaging. Yes, even truthful but malicious statements like these can still be considered defamation of characters under some circumstances. Ethioview.com’s “repeated, remorseless and speculative reporting” of the London St. Mary of Debre Tsion Ethiopian Orthodox Church conflict will “irreparably damage the reputation of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church” and would not be too easy to unravel.

While all media reporting has a part to play in all fields, the reputation of the church, its elders and the congressional members who helped the church to be fully owned continues to hinge on the outcome of the London Police investigation and the Charity Commission as indicated by Ethioview.com. They claimed to have been anti-EPRDF, but the picture above tells differently.

Therefore, the very crucial questions to ask at this stage relate to the broader implications of an intensified accusation made against the church and its practices on issues of fraudulent activities and other matters as claimed by Ethioview.com. During this planned “Trial By Media”, due process and the attendant legal requirement to provide evidence of guilt gives way to moral speculation about the actions and motives of key protagonists. This is creating a volatile climate in which one section of the media take the lead in defining who is guilty & who is innocent in the court of public opinion. Hence what are also at stake more than the reputation of the church and those few individuals are Ethiopia’s good name and the Orthodox religion’s reputation. One may ask these days, what is the church, what is it doing for the sinners and whose church is it anyway and why? The answer from 1 Corinthians is clear. The church is God’s church. The church is the creation and “property” of the triune God too.

Acknowledging this, means that when we’re in the midst of such church conflicts, we must seek God’s will for God’s church above all other selfish personal things. I myself don’t at all claim to have been one of those regular churchgoers since the so-called Patriarch Aba Diabilos divided and poisoned our Orthodox churches there in Ethiopia and all over the world. I hate division. Never the less, I sincerely and wholeheartedly wish conflicts among Christians were a relatively insignificant problem till I myself witnessed many bad things in the past. I wish we who believe in Jesus Christ could experience the unity he commended to us in John 17:20-24. I wish there wasn’t animosity within churches and its denominations. But all of this is, I admit, has been my wishful thinking. The fact of the matter is that Christians often have a hard time getting along with each other as the Devil was and still is actively at work to set us against each other. This has been true from the earliest days of the church. The Apostle Paul, who planted the church, wrote in 1 Corinthians to the believers principally because of internal conflict in the church. By the time Paul wrote 2 Corinthians, the real tension was largely between Paul and his church.

The Apostle Paul was not pleased with what was happening in his church. Here’s what he wrote to all the Corinthians: “When you have something against another Christian, why do you file a lawsuit and ask a secular court to decide the matter, instead of taking it to other Christians to decide who is right? Don’t you know that someday we Christians are going to judge the world?” He went on to say, since you are going to judge the world, can’t you decide these little things among yourselves? Don’t you realize that we Christians will judge Angels too? So, you should be able to resolve ordinary disagreements on earth. If you have legal disputes about matters, why do you go to outside judges who are not respected by the church? I am saying this to shame you. Isn’t there anyone in the church who is wise enough to decide these negative arguments? But one Christian sues another in front of unbelievers. To have such lawsuits at all is a real defeat for you all. Why not just accept the injustice and leave it at that? Why not let yourselves be even cheated? But instead, you yourselves are the ones who do wrong and cheat even your own Christian brothers and sisters said Paul. 1 Corn 6:1-8.

What is wrong with Christians suing other Christians in court or elsewhere? First, there should be sufficient wisdom in the said Church to solve such conflicts. Notice that Paul assumes that disputes among Christians are the business of the church. If a Christian brother has a conflict with another brother, that’s not a private matter. It’s something that impacts the church and is part of the church’s rightful concern. Moreover too, for Christians to sue each other in secular courts really and truly looks terrible to observing children and unbelievers around us. It certainly doesn’t commend the Gospel of Jesus Christ if Christians sue each other. For that matter, the desire to win and get even doesn’t reflect the Holy Cross of Jesus Christ. Moreover too, when the behaviour of church officials is illegal, then justice requires legal action in criminal court not in a Charity Commission. But some use of this route to solve personal conflicts is nothing we should be proud of or seek to perpetuate. Whatever else, such route should be the last resort among Christians. So, where should we start if we are seeking God’s guidance for conflicts?

First, in times of conflict our natural human emotions often try to dictate our behaviour. We feel angry and want to lash out. We feel fear and want to defend or attack. We feel wronged and want to get revenges too? Yet, if we allow our emotions to guide our behaviour, inevitably we’ll simply make matters much worse. Secondly, in times of conflict, we must stand solidly upon God’s Scripture all because God’s ways of dealing with conflicts are generally very different from the world’s ways. And these days there are no good mediators. When we are in the midst of church battle too, we are tempted to adopt ways of this cruel world. Chief among these ways is the desire to win. We can also be tempted to use human schemes to defeat our opponents. We spin like we are in the middle of a dirty political campaign. We rally the troops. We let out the dogs. We defend ourselves. We also play the victim cards. We undermine our opponents. We conveniently ignore facts that don’t support our side. We hold grudges, so on, and so forth.

Third, in times of conflict among Christians, we need the Bible as the source both of practical guidance to learn how to act and of theological insight to learn how to think about God and the church. The biblical combination of ethics and theology helps to shape our thoughts, feelings, and actions. Many of such conflicts are a matter of perception to escalate because someone has not thought it thoroughly and carefully. The advice to count to 10 before responding to someone in anger is good, but we should go a step further and ask if the situation is worth engaging in a conflict at all? Is there a conflict because you didn’t get your way or is it a conflict all because others hurt you? Only by asking the question can you get the answer. Rarely does a major conflict have a solution acceptable to all. However, if an effort is made to hear all sides of any kind of conflicts, a course of action can at least be explained based on all the information presented. If in a committee meeting someone tries to revive the issue, useful answers can be provided based on the group’s discussion, thus reducing those bad conflicts over some issues.

But unfortunately, some priests in our religion and most church elders resist discussing church conflicts. Their resistance often stems from the belief that all conflicts are so negative and to be avoided, if not ignored, at all costs. It seems that was why this current matter sadly got out of hand. The correct response depends on the definition given to the word conflict, which may be defined to also include any matter that terminates, limits or prohibits Christians from acting or interacting with one another in a spiritually compelling way and therefore, affects their ability to serve God according to the Scripture. Someone said that conflict is neither good nor evil but only inevitable. Jesus made it clear that we would always experience conflicts of all kinds even as Christians Luke 17:1. But the Scripture lays out the proper way to handle conflict, and the Holy Spirit empowers us to deal with conflicts competently. Yet, the church often remains unwilling to learn how to manage its conflicts in a way that will be beneficial to the kingdom of God. Conflict should be viewed as an opportunity to help people grow in faith. Rather than dwelling on the negative aspects of conflict in the church’s divisiveness, power plays and also control issues, the church should begin to recognize conflicts as the opportunity to create action to avoid these kinds of allegations & counter allegations against each other in future too.

While there is no one correct answer to this situation, a less well-reasoned response may seek to avoid the conflict simply by presenting both options to the church board and holding a vote to determine who wins and who also loses. Most church elders and especially priests know that it would result in one or more members leaving the church with a negative attitude if not dealt properly in unbiased manners. Viewing conflicts, as a negative that ought to be ignored can be detrimental not only to the church elders and priests, who wants a growing and thriving church, but also to churchgoers, who eagerly follow the elders and priests example in intelligently and diplomatically handling all conflicts. All kinds of conflicts need not be ignored at all, for God has equipped priests and some preachers to manage conflicts to disciple and heal church members in working out all the scriptural mandates of repentance, reconciliation and conflict resolutions. Unfortunately, I just learnt that the accusers did not seem to be interested in any reconciliation.

Moreover, in today’s rights-oriented society, a simple conflict at the moment could become a major lawsuit at a later time. One of the blessings of a minor conflict is that it can prepare the parties to handle a major conflict with understanding in the future so that it does not destroy relationships. The ministry of reconciliation is at the heart of the Gospel messages in the Bible. Conflict has no simple answers, no formulas for easy use too. However, if we have a desire to be proactive rather than reactive to conflict situation and competently meet it rather than ignore it, we can certainly minimize difficulties and legal ramifications that might flow from disputes. So, is conflict good or evil? It is neither. Moreover too, that is not the real issue here in this case. The real issue is how will we choose to resolve conflicts in our way or in God’s way? Or, would it still be better if Ethioview.com and the Church continue to be at loggerheads to virtually gain nothing, but only bad names? Is it really and truly worth it too, to poison the badly troubled Ethiopian Communities’ reputation to become a laughing stock for EPRDF: Ethiopian enemies?

The church should not rely on outsiders or the court system for conflict resolution in this kind of ever-increasing litigious society. This kind of tragic conflict is a drain on the church’s resources and, more importantly too, a stumbling block for those who attend the church to seek to know Christ as their life-changing force. Does the God of our salvation not have power to help believers resolve conflicts? Why do we trust Him to save our eternal souls and yet believe that He is disinterested or incapable of providing an answer for the resolution of conflicts but believe Charity Commission does? Consider this simple answer: We do not want Almighty God to help us resolve our conflicts. In other words, we want Him as our saviour and creature God of some things but not our conflicts. Could it be that we, as a churchgoers, elders and priests, have abandoned the principles God has provided for us in the everyday area that we call conflicts? Conflicts in our churches are a reality. But I say, a church without conflict is probably a church that is dead. Although we tend to be shaken by conflicts, in itself conflict is not the real issue. Rather, the issue is whether and how the church responds to conflicts in a way that honours God. How do we address the issue of conflict and discipline in the church? One option is the formation of a “Conflict Resolution Committee” with matured and respected individuals to help church members resolve their disputes in compliance with the standard of Scripture rather than simply the law of man. This peacemaker committee ideally would have the same status as the most important committees of the church and be under the direct supervision of the Senior Priest. A committee of this nature could take many forms, but some commonalities of such a committee should be considered for constructively commit to resolving conflicts & nothing else.

Before forming a conflict resolution/peacemaker committee, church leaders must desire to build a church that is willing to resolve conflicts between the church leaders and members, married couple and relatives alike, in a purely biblically faithful ways. Conflict must be viewed as an opportunity for church members’ growth and the discipleship. Unless the church leadership commits to the process, forming a committee will be just another program. Since many conflicts result from some kind of misunderstanding and miscommunication, it is imperative that the committee’s mission be clearly communicated to the congregation as well as to those who serve on the said committee. The written mission should be stated in positive terms with the goal’s being not only to foster reconciliation and restoration to those individuals in conflict or the church’s tenets of faith but also to resolve issues. It is very easy to project an authoritarian image of the committee to the congregation that would defeat its successes. One of the main keys to an effective Peacemaking Committee is a very good peacemaker with pleasant personality. Identify those in the church who have distinguished themselves as peacemakers in any previous conflict situations. They should not be known contention makers or those who are quick to judge others but, rather, those who exhibit the fruit of the Spirit wise, patient and caring kinds. Committee members should (1), be able to keep matters in confidence, not given to discussing what they hear with others in the church, and (2), be able to judge any matter of all conflicts or sins rather than judging the person. These can be seen as very useful mediators.

For the committee’s work to be successful, the congregation must be able to understand the nature of conflicts and the discipleship function of the church. Many in the church these days may view the church as a Social Club or Society; however, the leadership of the congregation has an obligation to the membership to create a very caring church that is responsive to the discipleship of the individual members and just churchgoers. Sometimes too, conflicts are not resolved because the parties are unwilling to look for help outside their own immediate circle all because of their personal pride and fear of spread of malicious gossips and innuendos alike. They fear appearing less spiritual if others know they are embroiled in a conflict. This attitude should be really dismissed if we recognize the value of conflicts to be resolved. Contacting an outside source for Conflict Resolutions help also provides a church with a resource to help reconcile relationships & resolve conflicts that may not be resolvable using internal procedures.

Now, you all realized that the kind of process I have been describing and explaining above isn’t an easy one at all. But believe me, I know this. I have been involved in some of the messiest and most confusing efforts to bring reconciliation between people. Often, what makes them so messy and confusing is the failure or their unwillingness of involved parties to do what Jesus Christ told us to do in such circumstances? We all know how to resolve many conflicts but the problem is that we usually are more interested in showing ourselves to others to be right rather than fixing the conflict. We just want to fully justify our thoughts. Rather than making a show, causing a stir, lashing out, and or complaining about what has happened to us, let us simply and quietly try to act properly and resolve our conflicts in Godly and civilized manners, even if it means we may be treated unfairly by others be it our accusers or the accused. Ethioview’s publication would be seen as unnecessary leaks of the church’s internal matters in public in illegal manners and treason by the accuser to resort to these kinds of accusation that was not done when the accuser/s were/was with the church as trusted and valued Christian members.

Ethioview.com editors’ statement “We are open to post any article and replies should it come from the Parish Council or anyone else as long as it has a supporting document” did not at all sound practical and genuine to me as well. Why on earth any publisher like me needs any supporting document as required by the editors’ to only raise my concerns, views and give constructive critiques as an independent person against the accusers or the accused when I am not involved in this dispute and also that I am not a member of the church. Ethioview editors’ seemed to be saying to us, “Do not comment on our allegations but just read them and believe us without any reasonable doubts”. Denying that everyone must be able to speak out their observation without strings attached that do not wrongly favour all parties concerned in this matter. No wonder that no one yet published rebuttals on Ethioview.com too?

What also really puzzled me was that although Ethioview claimed the complaints were lodged and signed by 60 Concerned Members of the Church, but no single name was mentioned in there hence it looked and sounded to me as a few people’ suspicious claims that was as noisy as a brass band. In addition to all that, there have been contradictions in the allegation and some irrelevant political accusations were inserted in the complaints to spice up the allegation to make it believable and acceptable as a true reflection of what went wrong in the church. Notes taken and resolutions passed at various committee meetings were foolishly listed as evidential documents as well. And why talk about unproven rape and human right abuses too?

Furthermore, The Ethioview statement had about five flashing headlines to attract readers just like some shops and night clubs do to pull customers into their premises but when one opens them all one by one, they were one and only one statement that clearly showed desperation to the maximum and too much anger and hate to the accused than exposing the wrongdoers to help the church concerned that the person/s cried for with their crocodile tears to fool the public. It did not add up at all to merit any kind of respect let alone acceptance as a truthful statement of genuine complaints by a true Christian/s readers were made to almost believe.

More or less, God will bring his justice later and knows of our righteous actions if the accuser/s and the accused failed to wholeheartedly repent and revoke this nonsense accusation and immediately resolve these Holy Church matters in an amicable ways and moreover too, in true Christian manners. Hence now, I appeal to the accuser and the accused, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you be in agreement and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind in the name of Almighty God and for the same purpose too as good Christians you all claimed to be. Fight against evil forced. Good must win over evil.

MAY ALL BE, AS GOD WILL TOO? AMEN!

London St. Mary of Debre Tsion Ethiopian Orthodox Church

The London St. Mary of Debre Tsion Ethiopian Orthodox Church that Ethiopians purchased after nearly three decades, but Aba Diabilos wanted to control it, or destroy it using his hired evil forces.

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49 Responses to The London St. Mary of Debre Tsion Ethiopian Orthodox Church vs Some Members Latest Conflict: Good or Evil?

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  2. Sebehat

    July 17, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    “Ewere bishefet Garo”, Why this guy if he is real Ethiopian instad of promot false alligation on one single church, he should involve the current problem we have face in the country and in the orthodox church as whole? I am shure he has hiden ajenda behind or some thing presonal interest desperate to use. It is obvious he never sleep to write about London St Mary church he is brain totaly egaged about it Oh! God, The thing is all of them useless and baseless. I think all comments on the above 99.9% close to the fact.

    Brother Dereshu it doesn’t look you are worring about the church but looking some thing satisfay yourself only to be honest.

    Thanks ECADfroum as usual

  3. Orthodos

    July 17, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Dereshaye had no idea about the faithfull of the church even, some times I am really worried about him since know him he never stop slandring and accusing others.

    He went Adiss and mostly he sepend time and money looking for presonal profile, if any one in the church what did wrong from privious work place/church that could support him to slandering and accusation.

    1.It happend to Deacon Tebebe, he was very good preacher but won’t come to the church any more because he feared Ato Dereshaye slandring his name.

    2. He accused Kesis Berhanu used £47900 church mony for his own.he wrote 27 pages accusation latter in Augets 2000 and sent it each houshold in london. so and so on.

    Dear readers he was evicted out from the church in the eve of Easter, I belive it was not the power of humanbing there was the welling of God.

    Honstely speaking on the celebration God friday/Yeseqelt bale/ at the end of the prayer when we said “Le Yhuda woldu Wo weldu Yedemses” I have heared one of the member said “Dereshaye Yedemses” I was shoked and surprised how people identify this guy?. he is leaded by evil sprite to againest church servants. I am really sorry and I shoud not say that but I MUST say.

    Thank you

  4. tewabech

    July 16, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Dereshaye meshete yelemde enatun yasmamal, ante negade be betekristanachin sem letenged. Egziabehere yeferedebh.

  5. Chichi

    July 16, 2011 at 7:07 am

    Yefate Yes. I agree with you he just desprate use the church because now the church is free from morgage thanks for the Menane in london. he just tribbel maker and slander.
    We have to watch out this kind of arogant

    God Bless You all

  6. Abdurahman A.Nur

    July 15, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    THE AGAZI RELIGIOUS WING–TEGADALAI PAULOS MUST BE TOLD WHO REALLY HE IS A DEVIL WITH PATRIARCH COSTUME

  7. Yefate

    July 15, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Dereshaye, your alligation is your desir

  8. Memiher Wongele

    July 15, 2011 at 3:17 am

    We are breathing fresh air since Dershay was evicted from the church, We are serving our church and followers with love. no one can hid from the fact, fact is always fact any time any where. please come forward to ask the commettee to know more about our church london Mr Mary.

    God bless you all

  9. Tirengo

    July 15, 2011 at 3:02 am

    Shamless Dereshaye, Hand off from our church our fathers. we know who is who. go to nightclub.

  10. Zemenu

    July 15, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Dear Dereshu, Even thought I am from different religion It is easy to understand from the information I have read both sides you are on the wrong truck that could lead you wrong direction that’s why people against your clam is not reliable. So my advice is please coopperate with the mass. your evidence looks just fabricated in ethioview by yourself. do not be silly you are not the only claver preson at least you have think.
    you tacare
    Chaw

  11. Asefa

    July 15, 2011 at 1:13 am

    Guys bad and goog are every where including myselfe no body prefect however that fare I know Dereshaye is not better than the others for church even he is the worst one. accusation and slandering people is the part of his nature. belive me I know him closely.

  12. Mimi

    July 14, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    Dereshaye derasheh yetefa, betekrsteyanachen letazaga be sedete hager kefu

  13. Tamerat

    July 14, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Ato Dereshaye we have cross cheeked your accusation, you just truned against the church with fales alligation and basless. do not you fear God at least?

  14. Biratu

    July 14, 2011 at 7:54 am

    Abereht he used to a christian even some people said he was “Deacon” I am not sure . now he turn against the church and church servants even brin washing other innocents with no reason. Your whis is very good God have mercy on him. may be the acussation came with the power of Whisky as we can see on the above photograph.

  15. Abereht

    July 14, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Oh,God!! I thought the guy is christian isn’t he? why he wanted the church to be closed. I can not belive this. he might lost his mined London is very stressfull
    God have mercy on him

  16. Lilli

    July 14, 2011 at 4:57 am

    The one who has ear let him hear

  17. Tsedalu

    July 14, 2011 at 4:51 am

    I think all this comment based on the fact,we should face out the bad idea the same as this always to know the public. obviously this guy did wrong on our church. As I have investigated it is very intersting and praud the the followrs/belives managed to pay £1.7 million. why this guy against them with no reason. he has no good name round the cmmunity in UK even the elders are the witeness. my adivice for this guy from the Bible” I do not want you ignorant of the fact” 1corinthain9:10

  18. Metagese

    July 14, 2011 at 4:18 am

    why ethioview website coopperate with this kind of fabrication saff, the editors should know good and bad. it is clear all this fabrications are just to take over the church based on presonal interest.

  19. Asemu

    July 14, 2011 at 4:12 am

    Mr Dreshaye it is your own doctrine to satisfaye your own demand in the church
    It is very sad story.

  20. Parose

    July 14, 2011 at 3:06 am

    Mr Deresha your accusation is meaningless and promote controversies. you created the doctrine of yourself to satisfay your interst by betrayed other innocents. think about it you mad the big mistak

  21. Meharie

    July 14, 2011 at 2:44 am

    Ato Dereshaye It is so sad how you worked hard to betrayed the church, the fathers,the elders,the brothers and the sisters. you mad stupied derama and commited cruelity on your brothers from your own country in forign land, just only for your interest only. This is anforgotabl event in the history of London St. Marry church it will remain in the musum even to knows you the generation to come. Holy Bible said in Roman1:2″You, therefore have no excuse,you pass judgement on some one else ….”

    Thank you Dr for your brief article
    and thank you Moges for your short and understandabl comment.
    God Bless you all Ethiopians

  22. Chichi

    July 14, 2011 at 1:39 am

    He is full of egnorant, He have don all those things for his own valu and to be the honest man to Pawelos. he is against the mass but he think he the most trusted one for the church. He is so silly

  23. Mogsea

    July 13, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Ato Dereshaye I have read all the accusation you have made and fasted on ethioview website,

    Your statement in short.
    1. You accused priests are benefit fraud because they got £30 a week for transport from the church without knowing UK government. Because you are worried this is against the law of the UK gmnt.
    2. You accused the church itself because over 500 people worship every Sunday and you are worried of healthy and safety reason in the UK
    3. You accused Sunday school and children school in the church because you are worried chilled sexual harassment.
    4. You accused the church elders and the committee members because they all corrupted.

    Dear readers do you think this guy is normal? Who is he to judge others without any single evidence.

    My own understanding in short
    1.I understand that he tried to betrayed others to be imprison for benefit fraud.
    2. I understand that he tried the church to be closed health and safety reason.
    3.I understand he tried the church itself to be closed as sexual immorality.
    4.I understand he tried the elders and the committee to be imprison as a corrupted people.

    My own judgement in short
    All this are fabrication and mad up by himself only for his own interest only
    He is inhuman evil, cruel and devil.

  24. Hagose

    July 13, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Ato Dereshye yebege lemed lebso yemta tekula new

  25. Hassabu

    July 13, 2011 at 1:11 am

    Dershaye is this his name or is it what he is asking for his service of the almighty god???

  26. TENKIR

    July 12, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Dear Dirshaye!
    ” When everybody is against you, you might be on the wrong way”
    eventhough I dont accept the wording, I dont think that ppl are so mad with you without reason. something is fishy in your action in our church. aba gebre and co are on the way to distroy our church; try to be with those who are struggling to stop the evil deeds of aba gebre & co or at least leave our church in peace.
    ye ethio amlak qenawun yasasibih!!!

  27. demeke

    July 12, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    anteye ayezon

  28. Sebele

    July 12, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    Ere Dereshaye,nice to see you with Whiskey. please send me some of it as we used to do at night club. Dereshaye are you really “Deacon” I do not think so. keep it up may Abba can give you some position good idea.

    thank you Dr for your Article

  29. mezegebu

    July 12, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Mr Lema what is wrong with you? you don’t need to involve in the church as you know your better place is night club as usual. who gives you mandate to accuesed the church elders and pariesh councel? who are your in the first place? are you really better than the others for the church ? you must be jocking or you are looking for some benfite in side there. as fare as I know you totaly you are not a church preson at all. any one knows Ato Dereshaye please come forward to chriticize my comment.

  30. Estifanose

    July 12, 2011 at 7:25 am

    Ato Dershaye ere ebakeh arefeh tekmet , betebelabet ekube ateneged. ye Ethiopia Hizeb qelale adelem. enkuna ante manem ayatalelew. min nekah wodaje sew eko betam new eyeregemh yale. Betekristan yezega belehe tesefalh ebede neh enda ? minew ement kaleh wode tebele betehde. gen ement yalh ayemselgnem. Egezibehere yeredah

  31. Bogale

    July 12, 2011 at 7:18 am

    I feel sorry for this Man and I really feel shame when I see him.he is proper crazy

  32. Mamo

    July 12, 2011 at 3:03 am

    Dereshu No more game please stop and go your own way, we do not trust you for second we know you very well who you are.If you have ability to writte why you not involve the problem we have in ethiopian othodox church in general? I never heared your voice when abba Poulos killed innocent Fekadeselasie infronte of holy Tabote, I never heared your voice Abba Poulos made his own statu in the center of Addiss by $10,000,000.00 and force the belivers to worship for it, I never heared your voice so many christians got killed in Jemma? I never heared your voice when chruch elders and arc priestes when they are displaced from our church. I never heared your voice in priod of Abba Paoulos many christans are missing in our mother orthodox church? who are you Dershaye? I am sorry to say you are stupied missleader

  33. Roman

    July 12, 2011 at 2:41 am

    Oh! God this guy is mad. He need some one to take him holy water.

  34. Bereket

    July 12, 2011 at 1:29 am

    Dearest Dr G/Bekele , Thank you let as to know you are really based on the fact. I am really glad and proud the true and strong believers like you behind Our Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

    As you already explained on your brief article, the article that written by Ethio view editor, Yohanese Demelash, Bedemariam Ejegu and other falsely signed documents all of them fabricated by Dereshay and again he coated them as evidence, he is the gauge, the defendant and the accuser of the church, look how it is very easy in a simple common sense find out what kind of face, forgery, untrustworthy and irresponsible person Dereshaye mean.

    He is using the modern technology as an artificial weapons of mass distraction to destroy our church, the monks, the priests the elders, the fathers, the mothers and youngsters and children’s to satisfy his own personal interest only. Imagine this is the kind of person used to involve in the church in the name of the “Deacon”. Imagine how the member of the church and the parish council are very brave they are and strong enough to manage this kind of evil, devil and false propagandist, slander and hater.

    Thank you and God Almighty Bless you all

  35. Mulatu

    July 11, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Dereshu, Our church is the church of God but not Wiskey kkkkkk we knew your plan y.day is not today or tomorrow you have had enough. at least no one worset than you.

  36. Webitu

    July 11, 2011 at 11:57 am

    He is Set Achawach eko I knew him in the night club, Is he the one traying to sale our church. Ere yedefaw sistela woshaaa

  37. Mulatu

    July 11, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Our church is the church of God. Not a Whiseky. Dereshu fucoff with your whiskey. I got you now who you are.

  38. Ewentu

    July 11, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Deresha becoming a mad preson,I feel sorry for him,he is really hungerY to take over the church after the strong belivers and the committe managed to pay £1,700,000.00.He wanted to use the church again as his own charity organisation as well as a gifte like WHISKI as we can see on the photo KKKK
    K i said to him no chance again, we are aware of your stupied plan.

  39. Hassabu

    July 9, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Dear Admin/Web master,
    I had posted comment that shows the decency that one expected from an Ethiopian, who is an avid reader and participant of the “written” forum; however, my comment has been removed.and I would like to get reply the reason why it is not merited to be shown on this thread!!

    ከምስጋና ጋር!

  40. Ewentu

    July 9, 2011 at 4:20 am

    I know Dereshaye very well, even though he has very little knowledge about Ethiopian Orthodox Church he used to involved as name Deacon specialy in London St Mary church. He used this church as his own mother dining room, the guy very hater, segregator and egotism he knows how to make group with a people like him and some stupidest like Ejgu sons to use as his own privet instrument.

    He is a proper slander, he is accusing the elders and the fathers those who is served their own country and people for long time like B.G Tamene, Mr Getachew, Dr Wondemu and others.

    Obviously the one who has no father doesn’t know the love of the father he doesn’t care to sland the others fathers with no reason because he do not know his own.

    We do not allowed Dereshaye involved in our church any more, last Sunday after prayer over 300 believers gathered together and recognized him as Yezemnchin Dagemawie Jhuda, Curl and evil.

    I am surprised with Ejgu sons, they always love involve and jump in with any situation without understanding and clue, this ethioview web site running by them and editing about St Mary church totally fabrication. One of the Ejgu son called “Anty” in his nick name he was a regular participant in ECADF and Qale rooms he as no idea about politicas even his own privet life but he talk false and lie, he used to divided the admen’s by talking false this and that. As I know him and physically and on the phone, he never get tired and stop to talk fabrication staff. It is easy for Dershaye to brine wash and using him as a privet instrument to unknowns fabrication

  41. Maji

    July 7, 2011 at 6:20 am

    The devil is never far away from the church community to fulfil its mission of distraction. And it’s up to the wise men and women of common faith to shrug off the evils intention and come up with accommodating solution.
    Here again, someone deprived himself from a good night sleep just to instigate the hatred among the congregations. How wonderful it may be had the accusers spent their valuable time in devising the idea that brings community together rather than resorting to divisive allegations we never short off.
    Their allegation that goes public by ethioview.com is clearly seeking the judgment of its reader by portraying themselves as just and only saver of the holly place. Unfortunately, the accusation they brought to the public manifests their true intention of seeking power in the church rather than searching for its well being in good faith. If they are sincere enough to themselves and criminal offence has occurred in the holly place, then it could have been wiser to go through legal process rather than bragging in the cyber space. Most importantly the destiny of the church will be defined by mass not by the imaginary number of worshippers the accusers brought forward.
    For me as a reader, I see and judge your allegation (because you seek it) as futile attempt to force the church into the allegiance of Aba G/Medhine or see its demise. Whether you succeed or not time is the only parameter to acquaint with.

    ክሰይጣን ይሰውረን::

  42. Anteneh Mequanent

    July 7, 2011 at 9:47 am

    The church is God’s church. The church is the creation and “property” of the triune God too.

  43. debalke

    July 6, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    I was following the London church issue roughly and I understood some points:

    1. The website who posted the church internal affairs on the front page and left it there as a cover page is suspicious, in general the website didn’t looks like pro-democracy.

    2. Whoever the accusers are they don’t care about the treat our churches are facing by aba diablos and Meles Zenawi instead they are obsessed about the expelled church member maybe he is the owner of the website.

    3. There goal is to destroy the church not to correct the wrong doings they claimed.

  44. Ancient Ethiopia

    July 6, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    direshaye lemma doesnot need to go to church because Church is the second resting place of GOD. The first resting place of GOD is human's body with pure and clean heart and mind. Everybody knows ato diabilos is the meber of criminals who is directly invloved in killing of aba fekade selasie and ato diabilos has more girl friends, when Direshaye accpted ato diabilos as a religious father , he rejected almighty GOD. ato diabilos is a cursed man by GOD.

  45. Samrawit Negash

    July 5, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    The weyannes and their hodam followers have plotted to divide the congregations and take over the churches in the Diaspora. Aba Diablos is the right hand man of the ethnical fascist Meles Zenawi and has a significant role in the TPLF. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church is facing one of the most difficult times in its existence because of Meles Zenawi`s decision to undermine it. Meles associates the Ethiopian Orthodox Church with the Amharas who he has defined as the enemies of the Tigrayans. This is why he has targetted the church and is creating havoc in it. It is therefor up to all the followers of the church to protect the holy church against the destructive and evil forces Meles has unleashed.

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